Zero Trust Journey

Episode 17: Zero Trust is a timeless framework for security approaches

Victor Monga Season 1 Episode 17

00:00 Introduction to Allie Mellen
01:29 Allie's Journey in Cybersecurity
06:29 Understanding Zero Trust
09:30 Zero Trust and Security Operations
12:26 Platform vs. Best in Breed
17:36 The Role of Identity in Zero Trust
30:29 Zero Trust: Buzzword or Necessity?
34:31 The Importance of Compromise in Security

Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hackerxbella/
Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorvirtual
Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beingageek
Host: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zachary-pugh/

In this episode, the hosts and guest Allie Mellen, Principal Analyst at Forrester, dive deep into the realities of Zero Trust from the lens of security operations, threat detection, and real-world implementation. Allie shares her unconventional path into cybersecurity—from building a card skimmer in college to speaking at Black Hat—and how that hands-on experience shapes her perspective today.

Highlights:
--| Why ethical hackers often shift to blue team roles.
--| The SOC’s role in Zero Trust adoption—beyond buzzwords.
--| Platform vs. best-in-breed: what's really best for the analyst?
--| Why identity, cloud, and user experience are the new battlegrounds.
--| The need for community, practical training, and realistic Zero Trust expectations.
--| Why calling it “Zero Trust” can scare executives—and what to say instead.

Tune in to hear why Allie doesn’t like the term “perimeter,” how she thinks about identity and cloud, and why compromise—not control—is the real goal of Zero Trust.

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